Comments on: Careful What You Wish For…You Might Just Get It

By: ck

ck — Sat, 15 May 2010 12:23:29 +0000

This one is certainly proving this more than others. It will get worse if Steve succeeds in removing the 1.95$ per vote subsidy.

The question becomes do you want this theocratic totalitarian regime until the end of time? I hate the corporate ruling class, but do you want the evangelical right to rule on top of that.

Democracy or not: most have proven they don’t know nor do they understand democracy and they seem content to remain that way.

For me, it’s not to gain anything right now (baby steps), I simply don’t want to lose what little we do have left. Getting back what Steve has taken away has to come from a different government in power.

Not going out to vote is just more helpful to Steve.

Steve has proven different than the rest. He’s just much worse and promises a life of regression.

By: Toe

Toe — Sat, 15 May 2010 06:11:31 +0000

We’ve all been observing. Layton and Iggy and Harper, it’s a threesome. I think the difference between us is that you believe that our system is democratic, I do not. I think the government is an instrument of the ruling class. Just me.

By: ck

ck — Sat, 15 May 2010 05:32:22 +0000

As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some part of the government’s program. We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority. Your attention to this matter is appreciated. Gilles Duceppe, Jack Layton and Stephen Harper, September 9, 2004

They were ready to form an unholy alliance together in 2004-2005 to get Martin out of power.

Never mind Iggy, I’ve been observing for a few years now. Steve divides and conquers; he governs case by case; he only needs one party to keep him swimming on confidence issues; he doesn’t care who it is at any given time. Layton will go to bed with Steve when it suits him, the odd time go to bed with the Liberals even less of the time. Then he and his MPs trash the Liberals and seem to do and say things just for the sake of being contrary to the Liberals.

By: Toe

Toe — Sat, 15 May 2010 05:20:14 +0000

Other than the ‘letter’, ev link is Opinion. No idea of what your on about. “NDP supporters who would perhaps welcome a partnership with the Harpercons should be careful what they wish for.” There isn’t a ndp supporter in Canada that ‘wishes’ a partnership with the Cons, a stake thru the party perhaps, but a coalition, that’s as bad as Iggy implying an ndp/con coalition in ’09 when Layton supported the IE changes, because some Con bot said Easteners were loafer bastards or some such. Sheesh.

By: The Jurist

The Jurist — Sat, 15 May 2010 00:17:16 +0000

Of course, the historical record is that it was the NDP that actually put the kibosh on attempt to install Harper as PM in 2004. From Brian Topp’s How We Almost Gave The Tories The Boot, p. 36:

Confronted with (Gilles Duceppe’s statement that he would accept Harper as PM), and in these circumstances, Layton concluded he and our party had no obvious interest in making Stephen Harper prime minister. He therefore withdrew from the three-party group. No longer in control of the entire Opposition bench, the two other opposition parties then met with Martin and cobbled together a deal that kept the Liberal government in office for a few more months.

In fact, Layton’s track record is one of doing everything within his power to ensure the Cons aren’t in control (that decision, his choice to make a budget deal with Martin rather than bringing down the Libs when Adscam was at its worst, and his assembling the coalition in 2008 when the Cons expected him to kick the Libs while they were down). So the imagined prospect of the NDP showing any interest in a formal coalition with the Cons seems fairly certainly destined to remain just that.

By: ck

ck — Fri, 14 May 2010 23:56:26 +0000

I pointed out in an earlier post that he almost went to bed with Harpercons. I even linked the letter to that post.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 14 May 2010 23:43:47 +0000

Keep in mind that when the conbots where screaming “coup” with respect to the Dion coalition, Layton defended the move by pointing out that he, Harpy, and Duceppe had tried the same thing during the dying days of the Martin government.