Comments on: The New Smut Section of SSM–When Ignoring Don’t Work:Fight Back with Smut & Inuendo–UPDATE http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/ Mon, 31 May 2010 00:28:21 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: JJ http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2615 JJ Fri, 28 May 2010 05:43:04 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2615 Patrick isn't "evil", he's an irritating little ass-gnat, one that's feeling particularly important right now because he's the source of so much anxiety to someone else (you). If you're this sensitive about Patrick's inane mockery, what would you do if some real psycho fixated on you... called you at home? Or at work? Or started stalking you? That sometimes happens to bloggers, and that is where the rubber meets the road. That is when a person is right to be upset & paranoid. Anything less is all part of the white noise of meaningless babble and vast reservoirs of human dumbness that make up the internet. Take it for what it's worth ;) Patrick isn’t “evil”, he’s an irritating little ass-gnat, one that’s feeling particularly important right now because he’s the source of so much anxiety to someone else (you).

If you’re this sensitive about Patrick’s inane mockery, what would you do if some real psycho fixated on you… called you at home? Or at work? Or started stalking you? That sometimes happens to bloggers, and that is where the rubber meets the road. That is when a person is right to be upset & paranoid.

Anything less is all part of the white noise of meaningless babble and vast reservoirs of human dumbness that make up the internet.

Take it for what it’s worth ;)

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By: balbulican http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2612 balbulican Thu, 27 May 2010 15:55:10 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2612 Shrug. To put it as plainly as possible, you're simply rewarding and reinforcing his aberrant behaviour by providing him with exactly the response he's so desperately trying to elicit from you. If that's what you're trying to do, great. Shrug. To put it as plainly as possible, you’re simply rewarding and reinforcing his aberrant behaviour by providing him with exactly the response he’s so desperately trying to elicit from you.

If that’s what you’re trying to do, great.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2611 ck Thu, 27 May 2010 14:28:21 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2611 <em>Patrick is not “pure evil”. He’s childish, combatative, and obsessive, all traits I recognize and struggle with in myself. But you have to set the “evil” bar pretty low if you think Patrick qualifies.</em> Evil is elder, child, spousal and animal abuse; gay (or of any minority group; verbal &/or physical) bashing, stalking anyone; selling your own grandmother around the corner for 25 cents; unjustifiable murder (in other word, for the hell of it), making sure the poor and disenfranchised stay that way, watching somebody bleed, but not even bothering to call 9/11, push an already desperate person off a ledge, intentionally getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking, willingness to run over a disabled person who takes longer to cross the street simply because said driver missed their light (it really does happen; take it from someone who walks a blind co-worker from office to his bus stop at the end of the day), unwillingness to help your fellow man do good things or just getting through life the best way he or she could, employee discrimination, a refusal to help someone be employable and get a job, leaving somebody hanging out to dry. Twatsy qualifies for most, if not all of the above, as do today's neo-cons. My parents, teachers at school, my instructors at any after school activities, summer camp staff, etc have all taught me that those things are evil, and all those folks can't be wrong, now can they? Every kid in my generation and earlier were drummed those values when growing up. Bal, if you grew up in my time, and if you weren't taught those same values then your upbringing must have been the exception. Sorry, but nice guys don't leave targets of stalking and public humiliation out to dry. I noticed when leaving a comment at some progressive bloggers who do allow Twatsy to comment, he humiliates me on their site. Only Montreal Simon and Dylan of Right of Center Ice had the decency to actually condemn his behavior. Try googling how many posts about me he's written since March. Count how many I have rebutted up til now; try none, except for the mention of his multiple IP addresses. Proof I did try ignoring him. It didn't work. It still doesn't . I am seeing that if I don't rebut, he wins; I am nothing but the chicken wanker he says I am. Hell, you must believe it...never ever heard you refuting it. That's your right but when I decide to bite him back, stay outta the way. There I have written Twatsy's next post for him... Like I said, no wonder our side is losing with all the divisiveness. Evil stay in lockstep with each other and that is why they're winning. If you wish to continue defending someone who seems to have a sickly evil fetish for small kids and animals, then go ahead... Patrick is not “pure evil”. He’s childish, combatative, and obsessive, all traits I recognize and struggle with in myself. But you have to set the “evil” bar pretty low if you think Patrick qualifies.

Evil is elder, child, spousal and animal abuse; gay (or of any minority group; verbal &/or physical) bashing, stalking anyone; selling your own grandmother around the corner for 25 cents; unjustifiable murder (in other word, for the hell of it), making sure the poor and disenfranchised stay that way, watching somebody bleed, but not even bothering to call 9/11, push an already desperate person off a ledge, intentionally getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking, willingness to run over a disabled person who takes longer to cross the street simply because said driver missed their light (it really does happen; take it from someone who walks a blind co-worker from office to his bus stop at the end of the day), unwillingness to help your fellow man do good things or just getting through life the best way he or she could, employee discrimination, a refusal to help someone be employable and get a job, leaving somebody hanging out to dry.

Twatsy qualifies for most, if not all of the above, as do today’s neo-cons. My parents, teachers at school, my instructors at any after school activities, summer camp staff, etc have all taught me that those things are evil, and all those folks can’t be wrong, now can they? Every kid in my generation and earlier were drummed those values when growing up.

Bal, if you grew up in my time, and if you weren’t taught those same values then your upbringing must have been the exception.

Sorry, but nice guys don’t leave targets of stalking and public humiliation out to dry.

I noticed when leaving a comment at some progressive bloggers who do allow Twatsy to comment, he humiliates me on their site. Only Montreal Simon and Dylan of Right of Center Ice had the decency to actually condemn his behavior.

Try googling how many posts about me he’s written since March. Count how many I have rebutted up til now; try none, except for the mention of his multiple IP addresses.
Proof I did try ignoring him. It didn’t work. It still doesn’t . I am seeing that if I don’t rebut, he wins; I am nothing but the chicken wanker he says I am. Hell, you must believe it…never ever heard you refuting it. That’s your right but when I decide to bite him back, stay outta the way.

There I have written Twatsy’s next post for him…

Like I said, no wonder our side is losing with all the divisiveness. Evil stay in lockstep with each other and that is why they’re winning.

If you wish to continue defending someone who seems to have a sickly evil fetish for small kids and animals, then go ahead…

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By: balbulican http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2609 balbulican Thu, 27 May 2010 11:26:14 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2609 CK, you don't know me and have no reason to trust me, but just for this one post accept that I am a pretty nice guy and I am not playing games, just talking to you honestly. Patrick is not "pure evil". He's childish, combatative, and obsessive, all traits I recognize and struggle with in myself. But you have to set the "evil" bar pretty low if you think Patrick qualifies. JJ is exactly right. Patrick is delightedly poking you in exactly the manner he knows will elicit a reaction. If he ever decides to get into criminal law, he'll be an excellent cross examiner. His "ideas" are banal and his grasp of "argument" is weak, but he has a gift for figuring out exactly what makes other bloggers tick, and how to annoy them. And he's found your buttons. His targets and annoyance strategies vary. With CC it's a combatative, macho swagger. With Audrey, it was a shrill, capering, incessant repetition of "I WON! I WON!" With me, it was a hit to my arrogance. All different, and all, for a limited time, effective ways to provoke a response. But in each case they sopped working when the target figured out the game and started laughing at him instead of getting mad. He doesn't like being laughed at. By that, I don't mean the pissed-off bloggers usual furious clenched-teeth faux-amusment (LMAO OMG you are so LAME ROTFL). I mean really sitting back, watching him play his transparent games, pointing them out, and simply not engaging any further. It works. And it's better for your blood pressure. AND you have the twin pleasures of frustrating him and amusing your fellow bloggers. C'est ca qui va lui decourager, si tu peux le faire. CK, you don’t know me and have no reason to trust me, but just for this one post accept that I am a pretty nice guy and I am not playing games, just talking to you honestly.

Patrick is not “pure evil”. He’s childish, combatative, and obsessive, all traits I recognize and struggle with in myself. But you have to set the “evil” bar pretty low if you think Patrick qualifies.

JJ is exactly right. Patrick is delightedly poking you in exactly the manner he knows will elicit a reaction. If he ever decides to get into criminal law, he’ll be an excellent cross examiner. His “ideas” are banal and his grasp of “argument” is weak, but he has a gift for figuring out exactly what makes other bloggers tick, and how to annoy them. And he’s found your buttons.

His targets and annoyance strategies vary. With CC it’s a combatative, macho swagger. With Audrey, it was a shrill, capering, incessant repetition of “I WON! I WON!” With me, it was a hit to my arrogance. All different, and all, for a limited time, effective ways to provoke a response. But in each case they sopped working when the target figured out the game and started laughing at him instead of getting mad.

He doesn’t like being laughed at. By that, I don’t mean the pissed-off bloggers usual furious clenched-teeth faux-amusment (LMAO OMG you are so LAME ROTFL). I mean really sitting back, watching him play his transparent games, pointing them out, and simply not engaging any further. It works. And it’s better for your blood pressure. AND you have the twin pleasures of frustrating him and amusing your fellow bloggers.

C’est ca qui va lui decourager, si tu peux le faire.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2608 ck Thu, 27 May 2010 10:23:33 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2608 He's pure evil...just like today's neo-cons; only he's something out of horror movies who needs to be taught manners, at least. It's gotten so I can't leave comments at even some progressive blogs that still allow him there... He’s pure evil…just like today’s neo-cons; only he’s something out of horror movies who needs to be taught manners, at least.

It’s gotten so I can’t leave comments at even some progressive blogs that still allow him there…

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By: JJ http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2604 JJ Thu, 27 May 2010 08:18:54 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2604 Good grief, ck, can you not see what's happening? He's playing you!!! And you're playing right along with it. If anyone ever told me what I should write on my blog, I'd just laugh at them. Look, it's none of my business, I was just trying to give you a little friendly (if unsolicited) advice since this is clearly upsetting you. So I'll leave it at this: if someone is being a jerk to you, the best thing you can do is ignore them. The worst thing you can do is give them the attention they crave. It's the internet, it's not like anyone's showing up at your doorstep. Try not to take everything so seriously. Good grief, ck, can you not see what’s happening? He’s playing you!!! And you’re playing right along with it. If anyone ever told me what I should write on my blog, I’d just laugh at them.

Look, it’s none of my business, I was just trying to give you a little friendly (if unsolicited) advice since this is clearly upsetting you. So I’ll leave it at this: if someone is being a jerk to you, the best thing you can do is ignore them. The worst thing you can do is give them the attention they crave.

It’s the internet, it’s not like anyone’s showing up at your doorstep. Try not to take everything so seriously.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2600 ck Wed, 26 May 2010 19:08:22 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2600 Oh and JJ, did you know that he said awhile back that if I wrote on my blog basically what he wanted me to write, he may have left me alone. He basically wanted me to write that I'm a racist chicken wanker who takes orders from Canadian Cynic... Everytime I write a post, not even related to a blogging tory or any blogger, he would smash it at his place; misquote me and such. That would be like Suzy ALLCAPS harrassing you and harrassing you until you admitted that your a pro-abortion pig and women have pleasure being raped (or whatever other twisted mantra of her's) Could you handle that? No, I think you would be fighting back, as well you should. Oh and JJ, did you know that he said awhile back that if I wrote on my blog basically what he wanted me to write, he may have left me alone. He basically wanted me to write that I’m a racist chicken wanker who takes orders from Canadian Cynic…

Everytime I write a post, not even related to a blogging tory or any blogger, he would smash it at his place; misquote me and such.

That would be like Suzy ALLCAPS harrassing you and harrassing you until you admitted that your a pro-abortion pig and women have pleasure being raped (or whatever other twisted mantra of her’s)

Could you handle that? No, I think you would be fighting back, as well you should.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2599 ck Wed, 26 May 2010 19:02:46 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2599 He's already showering me with attention and has been for a long time; actually 9 IP addresses were attached to his name and email; there is at least one sock puppet identity and once upon a time, he impersonated Sparky, a frequent commenter at some of these blogs. He played the role of Sparky at my old place at Blogspot. As for other bloggers getting involved. I didn't involve them; they involved themselves. We all have choices as adults, but with choices come consequences, values our generation was raised with... If I don't fight my own battles, no one will. My father taught me when I was small that if someone hits me, to hit them back and hit harder. I tried taking the high road with him; it clearly didn't work. I told you this before. JJ, have you been his favourite blog subject for 3 months running now? Has he tried to get through to your site with multiple IP addresses and/or sock puppet identities? Clearly, if I don't fight back, I am the hack he says I am. That simple. I become the whimp he walks all over. He’s already showering me with attention and has been for a long time; actually 9 IP addresses were attached to his name and email; there is at least one sock puppet identity and once upon a time, he impersonated Sparky, a frequent commenter at some of these blogs. He played the role of Sparky at my old place at Blogspot.

As for other bloggers getting involved. I didn’t involve them; they involved themselves. We all have choices as adults, but with choices come consequences, values our generation was raised with…

If I don’t fight my own battles, no one will. My father taught me when I was small that if someone hits me, to hit them back and hit harder.

I tried taking the high road with him; it clearly didn’t work. I told you this before.

JJ, have you been his favourite blog subject for 3 months running now? Has he tried to get through to your site with multiple IP addresses and/or sock puppet identities?

Clearly, if I don’t fight back, I am the hack he says I am. That simple. I become the whimp he walks all over.

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By: JJ http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2598 JJ Wed, 26 May 2010 18:10:15 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2598 ck - <i>"If I’m banned at someone’s comment section; I don’t go back to attempt to leave comments with under a different IP addy or sock puppet identity. . If they ask me to stop leaving comments on their page: I will stop."</i> It's a mistake to judge the behaviour of others by your own personal standards: "I don't do it, so nobody else should". You don't have to understand *why* people sometimes do things differently from the way you would, just accept that they *do* and move on. FWIW, I never saw any evidence of sockpuppeting by PRoss at my place after he's been banned, which has been multiple times. Are you sure these IPs of which you speak are even his? You could be banning some unsuspecting reader who hasn't done anything wrong... "Blog wars", especially where you involve other bloggers who don't wish to be involved, are never a good idea. Patrick can be an irritating gnat on the arse of the blogosphere, but that's about it. He's probably having great fun at your expense over this, so unless you enjoy this kind of attention you'd be better off ignoring him. ck – “If I’m banned at someone’s comment section; I don’t go back to attempt to leave comments with under a different IP addy or sock puppet identity. . If they ask me to stop leaving comments on their page: I will stop.”

It’s a mistake to judge the behaviour of others by your own personal standards: “I don’t do it, so nobody else should”. You don’t have to understand *why* people sometimes do things differently from the way you would, just accept that they *do* and move on.

FWIW, I never saw any evidence of sockpuppeting by PRoss at my place after he’s been banned, which has been multiple times. Are you sure these IPs of which you speak are even his? You could be banning some unsuspecting reader who hasn’t done anything wrong…

“Blog wars”, especially where you involve other bloggers who don’t wish to be involved, are never a good idea. Patrick can be an irritating gnat on the arse of the blogosphere, but that’s about it. He’s probably having great fun at your expense over this, so unless you enjoy this kind of attention you’d be better off ignoring him.

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By: stageleft http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/05/25/the-new-smut-section-of-ssm-when-ignoring-dont-workfight-back-with-smut-innuendo/comment-page-1/#comment-2591 stageleft Wed, 26 May 2010 03:02:39 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=1976#comment-2591 Ah ..... what's with the "so, for you to approve..." gig? Didn't I already say that I didn't condemn your moderation policy, and that it was your blog and your comment moderation policy? I never mentioned any approval, or lack there of -- and why would it matter if I did, or did not, approve anyway? And as for "As for Stageleft and Balbulican; I never once mentioned them; they came rushing to my comments section…to defend what?" Does this sound even vaguely familiar to you: "Anyone who allows Patrick Ross on their site will be subject to my smutty inuendo on a regular basis. All are fair game! Collateral damage? You betcha! This is war!" You may not have known it but Patrick Ross does comment on stageleft, not often, but now and again - and for not deleting his comments or banning him you offered to make us the subject of your "smutty inuendo on a regular basis". So lets be real clear on this, I'm not defending anything or anyone. I am telling you that making threats against other bloggers simply because you have a personal ax to grind and they don't happen to agree with your chosen course of action brings out the snark in me - especially when one of the bloggers happens to be me. Ah ….. what’s with the “so, for you to approve…” gig? Didn’t I already say that I didn’t condemn your moderation policy, and that it was your blog and your comment moderation policy? I never mentioned any approval, or lack there of — and why would it matter if I did, or did not, approve anyway?

And as for “As for Stageleft and Balbulican; I never once mentioned them; they came rushing to my comments section…to defend what?”

Does this sound even vaguely familiar to you:

“Anyone who allows Patrick Ross on their site will be subject to my smutty inuendo on a regular basis. All are fair game! Collateral damage? You betcha! This is war!”

You may not have known it but Patrick Ross does comment on stageleft, not often, but now and again – and for not deleting his comments or banning him you offered to make us the subject of your “smutty inuendo on a regular basis”.

So lets be real clear on this, I’m not defending anything or anyone. I am telling you that making threats against other bloggers simply because you have a personal ax to grind and they don’t happen to agree with your chosen course of action brings out the snark in me – especially when one of the bloggers happens to be me.

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