Comments on: It Looks Like Iggy Is Taking Kelly McParland’s Advice http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/08/28/it-looks-like-iggy-is-taking-kelly-mcparlands-advice/ Center-left blog from Canadians across the country and beyond Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:45:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/08/28/it-looks-like-iggy-is-taking-kelly-mcparlands-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-3556 ck Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:02:02 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=3277#comment-3556 But how does one wash themselves clean after having debased themselves by being in his cheerleading squad?

So you propose we entertain a King Steve dictatorship a la General Pinochet lite until Gawd knows how long, because he won’t call elections (I will provide video later; but STeve did use a campaign slogan for the 2009 byelection of “No Election” at work now and can’t access it from this computer), for what?

Martin Cauchon was not found guilty of any wrond doing in the sponsorship scandal. If he were, wouldn’t he still be skulking somewhere in disgrace or in jail? He would at least be disbarred. He’s been working as a lawyer up until now for some Montreal law firm. As progressives we shouldn’t do like the Harpercons and promote guilt by association. So no, Iggy shouldn’t own the Sponsorship scandal. This is nitpickign.

If he did, he wouldn’t have kiboshed the coalition. He’s an “in-it-for-himself-shiester” like the rest of them
Oh Gawd! Don’t tell me I have to rehash the whole coalition thing yet again. Iggy’s in it for himself; yeah, ok. So what? So is every politician. Particularly in North America; that whole “every man for himself” mentality. Jack, Gilles, and Dizzy Miss Lizzy May…well, ’nuff said on her. Don’t have to even mention Steve the dictator.

Has it occurred to you and other progressives to look at reality from time to time? If I thought for one moment that a coalition would get Stevie Spiteful out of office, I’d be leading the charge for it. Frankly, it’s tiring everytime folks start living vicariously through Britain or Australia everytime they end up in coalition talks and they think it’s all rosy and we should do it here. I think it’s time to realize that we’re different from them, culturally and politically. Culturally and politically, in a word, we’re Americans. The majority center, which is not mythical, but very much real tend to be ignored by progressives. We’re at their mercy. Trends are being set out of a doughnut shop. If Iggy kiboshed the coalition; trust he had help from the talk radio circuit and the Timmy’s Crowd who said ‘NO!’. Not only that, Steve’s poll numbers shot past 40% at the time. Liberals are trend followers; not trend setters. Iggy saw the reaction of Jane and Joe Canuck at Timmy Horton’s that we did. And face it, most outside of Quebec hate the Bloc and pretty much wish Quebec would disappear in the night.

Steve salivates over the idea of a coalition. It’s red meat for him. He knows the math isn’t there.

I’d tell you that I’ll start reading your blog again after the Libs win and you can start being objective again and remorseful for helping Iffy in, but I truly believe that the Canadian electorate needs the wake-up call of a Harper majority to remind them to pay attention, participate and vote. It’s going to be a painful four year and it will likely take us 10 years to rebuild all that Harper destroys. Disaster wakes people from their slumber and from it, real leaders are born.

So I’m not wrong. How sad! The same guy who gave the Bush administration their justifying language for torture with terms like “enhanced interogation techniques” is the lesser evil than Harper. You may be right. But how does one wash themselves clean after having debased themselves by being in his cheerleading squad?

On the subject of the sposorship scandal; he takes ownership when he invites the perpetrators to come back and be his be his advisor for Quebec. He has no choice but to take ownership of the culture of entitlement which produced it; it’s all the Libs have got for now. The only selling point that the Liberal have is that they’re not the Conservatives.

Remember that Iggy doesn’t share your point of view about doing all one can to prevent a Harper majority. If he did, he wouldn’t have kiboshed the coalition. He’s an “in-it-for-himself-shiester” like the rest of them.

I’d tell you that I’ll start reading your blog again after the Libs win and you can start being objective again and remorseful for helping Iffy in, but I truly believe that the Canadian electorate needs the wake-up call of a Harper majority to remind them to pay attention, participate and vote. It’s going to be a painful four year and it will likely take us 10 years to rebuild all that Harper destroys. Disaster wakes people from their slumber and from it, real leaders are born.

You’re kidding, right?

Most of us won’t survive that.

I won’t be disappointed in Iggy because I don’t expect much from him and the Liberals. Just pretty much how things were before Steve and his junta came along. Folks won’t wake up. They just get beaten into submission til they can’t get up no more. 4 years? Refer to above paragraph; Steve won’t call an election in 4 years and if there is any opposition, they’ll be window dressing.

Majority of Canadians just ain’t socialist. They’re not even to the left; they’re center and have been shifted to the right, thanks to the right leaning corporate media and their message controlled by Harper.

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By: Hopeful Joe http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/08/28/it-looks-like-iggy-is-taking-kelly-mcparlands-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-3552 Hopeful Joe Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:56:29 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=3277#comment-3552 So I’m not wrong. How sad! The same guy who gave the Bush administration their justifying language for torture with terms like “enhanced interogation techniques” is the lesser evil than Harper. You may be right. But how does one wash themselves clean after having debased themselves by being in his cheerleading squad?

On the subject of the sposorship scandal; he takes ownership when he invites the perpetrators to come back and be his be his advisor for Quebec. He has no choice but to take ownership of the culture of entitlement which produced it; it’s all the Libs have got for now. The only selling point that the Liberal have is that they’re not the Conservatives.

Remember that Iggy doesn’t share your point of view about doing all one can to prevent a Harper majority. If he did, he wouldn’t have kiboshed the coalition. He’s an “in-it-for-himself-shiester” like the rest of them.

I’d tell you that I’ll start reading your blog again after the Libs win and you can start being objective again and remorseful for helping Iffy in, but I truly believe that the Canadian electorate needs the wake-up call of a Harper majority to remind them to pay attention, participate and vote. It’s going to be a painful four year and it will likely take us 10 years to rebuild all that Harper destroys. Disaster wakes people from their slumber and from it, real leaders are born.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/08/28/it-looks-like-iggy-is-taking-kelly-mcparlands-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-3550 ck Tue, 31 Aug 2010 01:01:18 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=3277#comment-3550 You tell me Hopeful Joe, You’re willing to entertain a Harpercon dictatorship for some pie in the sky dreams that will never happen; not with the center-right mentality of the majority Jane and Joe Six Pack at Timmy Horton’s. I learned a long time ago to accept certain realities. I wish more progressives did the same. Because waiting on a pipe dream is counterproductive and just increases Steve’s chances for his majority.

Sorry, survival is the key word of the day here and with a Harpercon majority, killing all our social programs in one fell swoop; survival becomes problematic.

Look at what Steve’s been doing! All this with a minority! Imagine if he were let loose with a majority? So yeah, I want him out of office, and frankly, I don’t really care how it’s done. Desperate times call for desperate measures. You can’t honestly think Iggy and the Liberals will be this terrifying?

And, HJ, I actually took the time to meet Iggy when he came to Montreal with his bus tour, if you had taken the time to attend an event on a stop nearest you, you would have found, as I have, a very different man from what you read and hear about on the newspaper and big tv screen. A very bright, concerned and engaging man.

The bus tour has done the party some good and it has improved Iggy’s confidence.

And that ol’ sponsorhip scandal. Can we please let it die a well deserved death already? TAlk about beating a dead horse. Like Steve is so honest and open and accountible! Gomery finished his Inquiry a long time ago. Whoever was implicated was either fired, moved out of the country, sent to jail and/or passed away. Iggy wasn’t even in the country when it happened. I’m sure what ever knowledge he had of it was as limited as ours is; whatever access to Canadian Media he may have had at the time. Why should he take ownership of it?

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By: Hopeful Joe http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/08/28/it-looks-like-iggy-is-taking-kelly-mcparlands-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-3549 Hopeful Joe Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:59:50 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=3277#comment-3549 Dear Sista,
My one question is who’s been whispering in your ear? Which political insider has convinced you that the Libs are stuck with Iggy so you’d better say nice things about him? A few months ago you were perfectly willing to be reasonably critical of a the same guy who still leaves much to be desired. Do you really believe that it’s too late to get rid of that loser?
BTW Susan Delacourt is morally dagerous company to be keeping. Isn’t she the same one whose always implying that the sponsorship scandal authors were national hero’s. She’s got her “L” tattoo and her nose up in the party’s nether regions as surely as Lorne Gunter has for the Cons. She’ll a cheerleader “journalist” for the same sense on entitlement which put the Libs in the doghouse with the electorate in the first place.

Should Canadians not be entitled to leadership that isn’t morally bankrupt? Shouldn’t journalists be trying to keep their personal feelings out of the reporting?

I’m worried that in your desparation to keep Stevie away from a majority that you might sell your integrety as well. Please tell me I’m wrong.

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