Comments on: On Mr. Kathy Shaidle, Small Dead Animals and welfare queens http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/ Center-left blog from Canadians across the country and beyond Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:37:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5363 ck Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:06:11 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5363 Regardless, the point is these ppl slam government programs, would begrudge others of them, yet are the first to grab these very same entitlements they so preach to slam and be rid of. If you're going to slam the welfare state, I always say, "put your money where your mouth is..." I am always amazed at how they never do, including many of those tea-party candidates Olbermann featured on his special. It's the hypocrisy I have a problem with, here. Regardless, the point is these ppl slam government programs, would begrudge others of them, yet are the first to grab these very same entitlements they so preach to slam and be rid of. If you’re going to slam the welfare state, I always say, “put your money where your mouth is…” I am always amazed at how they never do, including many of those tea-party candidates Olbermann featured on his special. It’s the hypocrisy I have a problem with, here.

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By: JJ http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5361 JJ Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:28:28 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5361 Ck - <i>"La Shaidle herself, has been living off government grant for almost 20 years now!"</i> Whoa, you might want to walk that one back a little. KS was once awarded some grants that were enough for her to live on so she could write full time *for awhile* (however long she could make the grant money last). My understanding is that such grants are lump sums, not funding in perpetuity. Ck – “La Shaidle herself, has been living off government grant for almost 20 years now!”

Whoa, you might want to walk that one back a little. KS was once awarded some grants that were enough for her to live on so she could write full time *for awhile* (however long she could make the grant money last). My understanding is that such grants are lump sums, not funding in perpetuity.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5359 ck Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:53:46 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5359 Like I said, spare me the indignation; on your side, clearly free speech is only for you, conservatives and not for the rest of us. Hell, even the media has to tout the Harper party line. Sun and G&M proved that with their firings of non-con writers. the Shaidles spew Islamophobia; they proudly hate Mooslims and yes, they practically condone violence to them; read their blogs sometime. They're not alone; part of a growing movement. This is ok to you? Perhaps it was just dandy when Jim Keegstra was teaching impressionable children that the holocaust never happened, hell, let's go further in your world and say that folks walking around in white robes and hoods is freedom of expression. How's about cross burning. Where does it stop? And on that note, I think I know your answer; Never. You've overstayed your welcome. Dumbing myself down to your level is really tiring me out and giving me a head-ache. Say g'nite, Gracie! Now, besides, you're late! Go find Alice in Wonderland now. Like I said, spare me the indignation; on your side, clearly free speech is only for you, conservatives and not for the rest of us. Hell, even the media has to tout the Harper party line. Sun and G&M proved that with their firings of non-con writers.

the Shaidles spew Islamophobia; they proudly hate Mooslims and yes, they practically condone violence to them; read their blogs sometime. They’re not alone; part of a growing movement. This is ok to you?

Perhaps it was just dandy when Jim Keegstra was teaching impressionable children that the holocaust never happened, hell, let’s go further in your world and say that folks walking around in white robes and hoods is freedom of expression. How’s about cross burning. Where does it stop?

And on that note, I think I know your answer; Never.

You’ve overstayed your welcome. Dumbing myself down to your level is really tiring me out and giving me a head-ache. Say g’nite, Gracie!

Now, besides, you’re late! Go find Alice in Wonderland now.

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By: rabbit http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5357 rabbit Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:43:26 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5357 ck: Jymm never said "white supremacist hate". He said only that one shouldn't be allowed to preach hate. So that's what I addressed. As to preaching "white supremacist hate", well I don't see a heck a lot of that around. A few neo-Nazi's doing Seig Heils in their mother's basement hardly warrants broad laws against hate speech. Canada is robust enough to withstand it. In this intensely polarized political atmosphere we all tend to see our opponents as hateful. We can either accept that the other side has a right to speak, even when we despise what they say, or we can wage a censorship war. Trouble is, ck, there won't be a lot of winners in that war. ck:

Jymm never said “white supremacist hate”. He said only that one shouldn’t be allowed to preach hate. So that’s what I addressed.

As to preaching “white supremacist hate”, well I don’t see a heck a lot of that around. A few neo-Nazi’s doing Seig Heils in their mother’s basement hardly warrants broad laws against hate speech. Canada is robust enough to withstand it.

In this intensely polarized political atmosphere we all tend to see our opponents as hateful. We can either accept that the other side has a right to speak, even when we despise what they say, or we can wage a censorship war. Trouble is, ck, there won’t be a lot of winners in that war.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5356 ck Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:34:59 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5356 Oh, and you and your ilk are fine ones to preach "free speech"; you've proven time and again that it's just for neo-cons like you and your ilk and not for the rest of us, so spare me the indignation. Oh, and you and your ilk are fine ones to preach “free speech”; you’ve proven time and again that it’s just for neo-cons like you and your ilk and not for the rest of us, so spare me the indignation.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5355 ck Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:30:19 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5355 <em>And if I hate the Catholic religion? Or companies that mine asbestos? Or poverty? Disco? Communism? Fruit with stickers?</em> I can't believe I must explain the difference between hatred of disco or asbestos mines and white supremacist hate. You're comparing that to violence inciting bigotry? Or how about spewing lies about people without backing them up, but nonetheless potentially damaging their reputations? Oh man! You're an example of why today's neo-cons are no longer an ideology; you're a diagnosis! Oh yeah! Freedom to promote bashing brown people; life must suck for you folks if you must promote. And if I hate the Catholic religion? Or companies that mine asbestos? Or poverty? Disco? Communism? Fruit with stickers?

I can’t believe I must explain the difference between hatred of disco or asbestos mines and white supremacist hate.

You’re comparing that to violence inciting bigotry? Or how about spewing lies about people without backing them up, but nonetheless potentially damaging their reputations? Oh man! You’re an example of why today’s neo-cons are no longer an ideology; you’re a diagnosis!

Oh yeah! Freedom to promote bashing brown people; life must suck for you folks if you must promote.

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By: rabbit http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5354 rabbit Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:18:19 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5354 Jymm: "Nobody should be allowed to preach hate or demean minority groups" And if I hate the Catholic religion? Or companies that mine asbestos? Or poverty? Disco? Communism? Fruit with stickers? We all hate something. The idea that we "can't preach hate" is absurd, and demonstrates how unsupportable your arguments are. Free speech is the most important of all freedoms. It's the key that unlocks all doors. It's the right which has done more than anything to relieve oppression and improve our lot. But apparently we've now figured what's right and what's wrong for all time, and can safely dispense with freedom of speech, limiting ourselves only to saying those things that are correct. Jymm, move to North Korea. Then you won't have to put up with all this nonsense of people just saying what they will. Jymm:

“Nobody should be allowed to preach hate or demean minority groups”

And if I hate the Catholic religion? Or companies that mine asbestos? Or poverty? Disco? Communism? Fruit with stickers?

We all hate something. The idea that we “can’t preach hate” is absurd, and demonstrates how unsupportable your arguments are.

Free speech is the most important of all freedoms. It’s the key that unlocks all doors. It’s the right which has done more than anything to relieve oppression and improve our lot.

But apparently we’ve now figured what’s right and what’s wrong for all time, and can safely dispense with freedom of speech, limiting ourselves only to saying those things that are correct.

Jymm, move to North Korea. Then you won’t have to put up with all this nonsense of people just saying what they will.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5353 ck Sat, 30 Oct 2010 01:58:49 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5353 Well, not to mention the hypocrisy of these insane batshits! More than half of 'em bash gov't "entitlements" but we find out later that they have benefitted from them themselves. It's the hypocrisy I gots a problem with as I'm sure you and Rabbit Hunter and the rest of the even moderately sane do. Well, not to mention the hypocrisy of these insane batshits! More than half of ‘em bash gov’t “entitlements” but we find out later that they have benefitted from them themselves. It’s the hypocrisy I gots a problem with as I’m sure you and Rabbit Hunter and the rest of the even moderately sane do.

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By: Jymn http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5352 Jymn Sat, 30 Oct 2010 01:56:30 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5352 Rabbit, move to the States. They have free speech. Good luck! (You're white, I presume.) Rabbit, move to the States. They have free speech. Good luck! (You’re white, I presume.)

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/10/29/on-mr-kathy-shaidle-small-dead-animals-and-welfare-queens/comment-page-1/#comment-5351 ck Sat, 30 Oct 2010 01:51:58 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=4669#comment-5351 I dunno Rabbit Hunter, I mean, Ezzy's well must run dry at some point, I mean, the LeRant seems to always get himself sued! You'd think he'd get it by now. Are they just letting anyone in Law school nowadays? And now he's being sued by George Soros who has even deeper pockets. I dunno Rabbit Hunter, I mean, Ezzy’s well must run dry at some point, I mean, the LeRant seems to always get himself sued! You’d think he’d get it by now. Are they just letting anyone in Law school nowadays? And now he’s being sued by George Soros who has even deeper pockets.

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