Comments on: Protesting and outrage. Where we juxtapose. CC edition. UPDATED http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/ Center-left blog from Canadians across the country and beyond Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:45:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6195 ck Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:43:54 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6195 Thank you.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/christie-blatchford/my-rebellion-against-coughing-into-my-elbows-happiness-surveys-and-other-mandated-idiocies/article1825047/

IN case you’re morbidly curious

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By: clancy http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6194 clancy Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:36:47 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6194 LMFAO…. no, i wasn’t aware of her policies re. the passing of wind (from either end). Will certainly keep a safe distance. Thx.

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By: clancy http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6193 clancy Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:33:58 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6193 Actually, she was very critical of the slow pace of resolutions to the many land claims. And, was forcefully sympathetic to a broad range of Aboriginal issues. From where I sat, her few utterances on the topic did more for the cause of Aboriginal issues than a dozen Dan Kellars. But then again, I’m a patriarchal colonialist propagandist.

I do enjoy visiting your blog from time to time. Quite like it actually.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6192 ck Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:14:43 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6192 oh by the by, did you need a hazmat suit? According to her last article, she is determined to cough without covering her mouth & fart in public. No, I’m not kidding.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6191 ck Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:12:54 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6191 she took shots at Fantino for a different reason though; like much of the right, apparently, Fantino wasn’t fascist enough with those “uppity” aboriginals with that Caledonia land dispute. Ya see, the new conservatism involves such hatred and bigotry, it probably includes bringing back small pox laced blankets for those aboriginals, whose land we stole from.

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By: clancy http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6190 clancy Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:35:41 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6190 So, Ms. Blatchford finally got to speak at the U of Waterloo last night. And instead of a smattering of attendees as there were on Nov 12, the auditorium was pretty much chock full of people only too willing to buy her book and get it autographed. Meanwhile, Danny boy and his merry troop were escorted off campus. I was actually disappointed about that. I would have liked a nice lively debate where both sides had their chance to speak. (He’s so cute when he calls us “settlers” on “turtle island”) But I must admit to some guilty pleasure knowing his right to speak was arbitrarily taken away, just as he did to me and others back in November.

Oh CK? You were right about Blatchford’s voice. Nails on a chalkboard. Nevertheless, her message wasn’t all bad. All in all, I think it drew more attention to the issues facing first nations people. And she took a few shots at the newly elected conservative member from Vaughan (oh, that’s part of Turtle Island don’t you know)

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By: dan kellar http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6050 dan kellar Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:55:02 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6050 @rabbit, there is a way protest is supposed to work? is it a way that does never challenge any dominant narrative or systems? is that the way it is supposed to work?

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By: dan kellar http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6049 dan kellar Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:49:49 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-6049 @christie the chant and the tactic was not “racist, racist, racist” it was “no racists in KW”. if the underlaying issue would actually be addressed here i would first take this to mean: racists and colonialist propagandists will be confronted in town, that KW does not want any new racists in town, and those those who support systemic racism (though these same people probably abbohr individual racist acts) need to question their teachings of dominance, colonialism, and patriarchal supremecy.

now, all you haters get a clue, you live in a society based in oppression (patriarchy/dominance), which is destroying itself (mass extinction, unsustainable resource use, soil/water devastation/toxification), and living without honour (no commitment to treaties (other than the neoliberal ones), ongoing colonial wars, abuse of new immigrants – MV Sun Sea, sweatshops, raids, deportations, Komagata Maru, SS St. Louis). you tell me to get a job or grow up. i always thought growing up was taking responsabilitiy, i thought work was effort that people thanked you for, or appreciated inherently, somtimes gave you items or currency as a sign of appreciation. i guess i learned a difference between growing up and maturing.

bash me all you like, i can take it, i can bury it (this patriarchal system taught me how to do this after all), but these facts about our settler society will remain. this system has trained many and we know the insides and the outs of your system. you trained us for 10-20-30 years on how to be capitalists, how to be individualists, and how to shut down our humanity so we could live in an isolated “peace”. well we dont want that system, we will live so everyone can live. you can’t escape the violence settler society creates, and we must reocgnize the resulting and systemic injustices as our own. The insjustice of colonialism is of us, and until its physical structures and current practices are confronted by us and according to our allies, we will not have peace.

live critically, live radically and live with the knowledge that you are responsible for your actions – responsible to yourself, to those who you love and love you, and to all the future faces.

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By: rabbit http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5870 rabbit Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:48:44 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5870 Not a bit. Golloway can talk himself to death, for all I care.

And I’m glad that the protesters were able to protest, but did not shut down his talk.

That’s the way it’s supposed to work.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5868 ck Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:43:01 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5868 But, I’m sure you have a problem with George Galloway speaking, doncha?

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By: rabbit http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5866 rabbit Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:24:51 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5866 Shriek? I never shriek.

You might shriek, however, at those idiots at Waterloo. By denying Blatchford the right to speak, they likely greatly increased her book sales. She couldn’t have orchestrated a better publicity stunt.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5841 ck Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:39:25 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5841 Here are some more; as you can see, it is already hitting the US:
Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives; values; and systems such as the political system and the economy. …

Corporatist perspectives, being key, here.

the doctrines, methods, or movement of the Fascisti
a system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition, private economic enterprise under centralized governmental control, belligerent nationalism, racism, and militarism, etc.

a political movement based on such policies
fascist behavior
Origin: It fascismo < fascio, political group < L fascis: see fasces

You had forgotten the part about the private enterprise;

The second definition I provided obviously, suits both the US and Stevie Spiteful’s Canada; seeing the beginnings of those characteristics. Why isn’t this sounding more alarm bells to Canadians?

Over 60% didn’t vote CPC

Well, hold on there, I beg to differ. I have always said that those who stayed home on election days was the same as a vote for Stevie Spiteful, as it’s always a vote for the front runner

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By: Logan http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5837 Logan Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:58:27 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5837 I have to say to do shy away from the use of the word Fascism. Here is Oxford Dictionary’s definition:”an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practices. The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43); the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader , and a strong demagogic approach.”

Harper is an ardent Nationalist who has shown contempt for democracy on several occations. He insists on his supremecy and has been caught on camera declaring how the CPC MUST WIN A MAJORITY and he has a VERY strong dogmatic approach. Remember, being fascistic doesn’t mean you are a Nazi. It means that the country leans towards the government by one over many. Now, we know most Canadians don’t want this (over 60% didn’t vote CPC) but regardless Canada has become more right wing, more caustic to democracy and more dogmatic simply as a result of the rule of one man: Stephen Harper.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5823 ck Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:15:12 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5823 words like racist, bigot and fascist are used here when appropriate. What? You want us to euphamize? I mean, Chrissy Bitchford, just like many on the right, has proven herself quite the bigot, racist as well as war monger, and she did that all by her lonesome.

And what is happening in the US is fascism and it’s growing in Canada too, look up the definition.

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By: clancy http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5822 clancy Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:54:41 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5822 Here i am :)

I have no issue whatsoever with protests, marches, boycotts or whatever any group wishes to do to get their perspective heard. THAT is free speech and I would absolutely defend that. But that’s NOT what happened at the UofW. The stated objective of the ARA was to prevent Ms. Blatchford from speaking altogether because they firmly believe she had no right to speak, and I had no right to listen. Unlike York, the UofW was unprepared for even this small cadre of protestors and cancelled the talk.

As I understand the above incident, the authorities were present, the protestors were allowed to voice their opinions, the speaker got to speak, and the attendees got to listen. A good night for democracy all round.

What saddens me though is how political activists from EITHER/BOTH extremes so readily use words like racist, bigot, fascist, nazi, etc. All of which are menu staples on this site as well. Shrill, adamant, unreasoned voices, unwilling and unable to allow any civil debate which disagrees with their particular entrenched views. (I’m about to break into Lennon’s, Imagine. lol) That being said, I suspect I’m tilting at windmills here.

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By: ck http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/11/17/protesting-speeches-where-we-juxtapose-cc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-5819 ck Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:20:55 +0000 http://sistersagesmusings.ca/?p=5272#comment-5819 Ha! I’m waiting for the speechey shriekers like Rabbit, Shaun/Clancy, et al to come and copy and paste their previous comments at the Bitchford post over here. Bet they’re racing to post their indignation over the unlawful and unruly protesters at the Galloway event. Any minute now. In 3…2…1!

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